5 April 2009 - 15:26=(
This just made me sad
I used to look up to this dude even though I didn’t know much about him but he was one of the only somewhat successful producers from Jersey when I was a kid..
http://allhiphop.com/stories/news/archive/2009/04/05/21325550.aspx
RIP TONY D.
still have his Music Makes You Move sealed somewhere in the office.
If I’m not mistaken the word around the way in Jersey was that he got jacked for the O.P.P. beat..
who knows, but he did have a flip of the J5 sample on the above album which came out before O.P.P.
You know I know all about that kind of speculation.
Regardless, the dude was a local legend.
Some of his beats for YZ were incredible for the time.
Wear your seat belts people..
Man..
I’m gonna go lay down.
YZ - In Control Of Things.
YZ f/ Tony D - Get Off the Rhythm aka In Control Pt 2.
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05 Apr 2009 - 15:31
never heard of him, but all loses are terrible : (
05 Apr 2009 - 16:09
oh he def got jacked by Naughty for that OPP beat; they settled out of court.
05 Apr 2009 - 16:21
interesting.. being that the song is sample based. they ususally throw those things out because most sampled songs are considered un-copyrightable due to the fact that they are based on pre-exisitng copyrighted material. in a case where the samples were not cleared. if so though, congrats to him on that.
05 Apr 2009 - 16:35
Man it’s crazy to hear someone flip the same sample that was flipped on the Lil Kim record. Thanks for letting us hear that….
05 Apr 2009 - 17:08
sucks that we realize how much someone means to everyone once that person is gone…..r.i.p tony d
06 Apr 2009 - 5:41
Rest in peace.
06 Apr 2009 - 5:49
I had that PRT record he produced on heavy rotation back in the day. Never knew who produced it at the time. That was way before I even started reading liner notes. RIP Tony D. It’s unfortunate.
BTW - JUST - It’s not that simple. Derivative works (which include songs derived from preexisting, copyrighted music) could get copyright protection for the composer/author but only to the extent of the original material that is contributed by that composer. I’ve never heard the song Tony D produced, but, assuming it is different and original enough compared to the J5 song to get copyright protection, Tony D could own a copyright to his derivative work, but, of course, not a copyright in the sample he used. There is also still an issue of whether the derivative work is authorized (in this case - sample cleared) by the copyright owner of the underlying work or if it was a fair use, etc. But, I’ll spare you the dissertation. I think you get the idea …
06 Apr 2009 - 6:02
do the knowledge Tony D was a BEAST, He’ll definitely be missed. Rest in Peace
06 Apr 2009 - 6:39
yes randy.. im well aware of sample laws. i have been in court for a very very very similar situation.. but like u, im not going to do a dissertation on it. and im 95% sure that tonys record was not cleared. it was a local NJ release on an indie label in 89.. basically a beat cd on record, which is exactly why i said what i said (read my comment again, i did say someting to the effect of the sample more than likely not being cleared). something like that WOULD get thrown out of court when going against a major label, that probably did at one point or another clear the sample. at that point its just the code of the streets.
06 Apr 2009 - 7:26
Buckle Up!
06 Apr 2009 - 17:00
Just - I did read your comment carefully, and I did notice you said that the sample probably was not cleared. It certainly is an open and shut case when you have a sample-based song with a sample that is not cleared.
I only commented further because saying that sampled songs are uncopyrightable just because they are based on pre-existing copyrighted material is not an accurate statement. Just because a creative work is based on someone else’s work does not automatically make it uncopyrightable.
You’re mixing up two different issues. Being authorized to use a sample is only one part of the analysis. The issue of being copyrightable is more an issue about originality as I said in my comment above. Being authorized to use a sample is a separate issue.
There are instances where sample-based songs do not need authorization from the sampled song’s copyright owner (e.g. fair use and sampled songs that are public domain).
06 Apr 2009 - 17:17
I don’t know about all the logistics behind the case - but I did find a site that has a copy of the Matty C-written article from the Source (http://ifihavent.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/jackin-for-beats-tony-d-in-the-source-1992/). I think Tone’s argument was that Kaygee jacked his loops, well, three of them. Kaygee is saying “Adam’s Nightmare” is wack, and I know that Naughty had that dude Dave play the piano live, and they added live bass. I’m not sure about what grounds Tone had a case, but I’d always heard that they settled out of court, so who knows. Maybe someone needs to find Kaygee and speak on it?
Or not.
06 Apr 2009 - 17:25
plenty of people in the recent posts have been asking for the hammer……oh well
06 Apr 2009 - 17:52
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06 Apr 2009 - 21:16
randy…
my whole statement was based on the fact that there was no sample clearance on the tony d record more than likely . and in a situation like that a court will consider the work unable to be copywritten. im not talking about all the possible scenariois. im talking about THAT scenario. Im not talkign about Mozart or random 15th century composition or some public domain work. I m talking about the Jackson 5 .Im not mixing up anything. but i think You’re mixing up the fact that you think I’m trying to apply ONE scenario to EVERYthing. like really, what would i look like saying that any song with a sample is not copyrightable?? that would make half my catalog null and void.
06 Apr 2009 - 21:46
@khal i wouldnt bother to track down kaygee to speak on it at this point. better to just leave well enough alone, especially now that tony isnt even around.
@ randy i probably could have worded what i said to cover a broader spectrum and be more indepth but i was really talking about one specific type of situation, if you look at what i said, (which i just did to be clear since i wrote that 5 minutes after i woke up and read the news) IMO my statement reflects that. If you don’t feel it does we can agree to disagree, no harm no foul. but i havent gotten this far in my career not knowing how the law works when it comes to sampling and copyright. so i think the arguement is really just one of wording and semantics. believe me I’e had enough crabs accuse me of stealing “ideas” to the point where i have no choice BUT to know about these kinda t hings front to back.
06 Apr 2009 - 21:58
Just - No, I’m not trying to battle you. Just having a discussion with you about copyrights. No more, no less. No hard feelings.
In your comment above, you did write (copying and pasting from part of your comment) –> ” … most sampled songs are considered un-copyrightable due to the fact that they are based on pre-exisitng copyrighted material.”
It sounds like you were making a statement about “most sampled songs”. If you only meant this one Tony D song, then OK. I didn’t get what you meant because when you write “most”, I think more than just this scenario.
06 Apr 2009 - 22:04
Just - I’m not saying you don’t know what you’re doing. I think it was just a misunderstanding. Plus, I was just trying to show off my copyright knowledge to people who did not ask for it. Sorry about that.
All good to me regardless.
06 Apr 2009 - 22:14
I coulda sworn there was an “especially” in your 1st comment … ah, forget it. It’s not important.
06 Apr 2009 - 22:23
i did edit my last posts bc i was a bit heated about something else and they came off too hostile i felt. but thats it, thats all single solo no more no less (c) KRS
06 Apr 2009 - 22:29
In your comment above, you did write (copying and pasting from part of your comment) –> ” … most sampled songs are considered un-copyrightable due to the fact that they are based on pre-exisitng copyrighted material.”
yes and that was followed by the bit about a sample not being cleared. which was the basis of my entire point.
i dealt with this a court case that endured over 2 years. someone made a BS claim against me a while back. was the worst experience of my life. and what we’re dscussing right now ended up becoming the key issue in the case. while i didnt exactly learn anything i didnt alread know, i definitely came to understand the technical aspects of the law in regards to copyright with a whole new clarity as far as the specifics..
06 Apr 2009 - 22:30
as far as me using the word “most” like i said i probably could have worded the statement better, but i was half asleep and still in a bit of shock. but i dont think that took away from the overall statement.
06 Apr 2009 - 22:54
I do understand what you were getting at now.
My apologies for bringing back bad memories.
06 Apr 2009 - 23:23
no doubt. id love to blog about it, but i may go into a rage and punch a hole thru my imac in the process! =/. big reason why im so sensetive to ppl making allegations that something was stolen. i know ppl do it all the time, but it really gets me right “there”.. bc ive never ever stolen anything from anyone.. except for those records in k-mart when i was 2.. but moms caught me.
06 Apr 2009 - 23:47
Say no more. I’ll take your word for it.
07 Apr 2009 - 1:40
wo wo wo….u see this new bink interview talkin mad shit bout u just….
07 Apr 2009 - 1:43
A: Back in 2000, Jay-Z dropped “The Dynasty”, an album that introduced your talent alongside those of Just Blaze and Kanye West. How come we didn’t find you on every Jay albums after that?
B: I did “The Blueprint” which was right after that but I kind of shadow away from the whole Roc-A-Fella scene because I was actually mimicked by somebody within the camp. It doesn’t feel right with me just because I’m from the old school and taking somebody else sound or style or whatever which was called “biting” back in the day is real personal. In the new school, there’s no such thing as “biting”, it’s about getting a check. That’s what I hate about the game. The whole creative side is not here anymore. There’s not a lot of people who make you want to go home and turn your machine on when you have listened to their music. A lot of people that you hear out here, you are thinking that you are hearing one person and it is somebody totally different and it’s OK. Back in the day, people used to get shot and beat up over stuff like that.
A: Who was biting your style?
B: I mean, that’s obvious, you can tell me that!
A: I would say… Just Blaze?
B: Of course! You are the type of guy that pays attention to details. The average fan or the average consumer, they don’t really care about who got what from who. That’s not their concern. If the record is hot, it’s all they care about. But if you are a fan of music, and you have really followed the game, then you know what I brought to the game and what people borrowed from me since I came in.
The crazy thing is that I used to be cool with the guy. Just Blaze and me were cool at one time doing the whole “Dynasty” and “Blueprint”. Once it got to the point where he was taking what I was doing, it doesn’t fit right with me. He ended up signing to Gee Roberson and Hip-Hop who were A&Rs for Roc-A-Fella. Once I wasn’t really feeling what was going on, they kind of let me behind and I pursued my career in other places.
A: So you ‘re any longer cool with Just Blaze, right?
B: We definitely don’t talk [laughs]. But when I first met the guy, he sounded like Swizz Beatz! That’s the irony to the story. He’s the only guy that I’ve heard in the game taking from so many producers. He’s starting to come to his own now a little bit but even now he’s more sounding like a Toomp or a Drumma Boy. He does what’s hot and that’s the part of the game that I told you I don’t agree with. I’m not going to do something because everybody else is doing it. He’s infamous for borrowing from people, that’s his M.O.. He’s a talented guy, I might say but he hasn’t brought anything to the game that he has come up with. That’s the only thing he’s missing: his own sound.
abcdrduson. com/interviews/feature-vo.php?id=196&p=3
07 Apr 2009 - 2:33
Bink! is coming at your head Just
http://hiphopupdate.blogspot.com/2009/04/former-roc-producer-bink-calls-out-just.html
But to me he sounds like a bitter old man
07 Apr 2009 - 5:09
Wow.
In arabic we call that calaam faruq.
Bink is chattin calaam faruq.
07 Apr 2009 - 5:48
see: http://themegatrondon2.com/2009/04/04/heard-it-all-before
07 Apr 2009 - 6:22
damn….was hopin ud have something to say in regards to such words
07 Apr 2009 - 7:24
ps the new eminem single sucks, damn it
07 Apr 2009 - 14:14
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh………
Ps - Komi’s beats are better than urs.
07 Apr 2009 - 15:30
lol @ the same sample Lil Kim used…….This shows the avarage Hip-Hop IQ of fans or stans now…..Get off the RTony did tracks for alot of emcees and his show with G on WPRB out of princeton nj was the jeresey version of the stretch and bobbito show……Get off the rythm was a Gangstarr diss as Primo used the sample for Gang’s No More Mr. Nice Guy………RIP Tone
07 Apr 2009 - 16:11
who knows wats real
08 Apr 2009 - 0:35
I think “We Made You” is pretty dope… and this is coming from someone who always disliked Eminem’s first singles.
08 Apr 2009 - 3:04
that opinion is pretty backwards
08 Apr 2009 - 18:41
1st of all RIP to Tony D to keep on the original subject.
2nd, I don’t get what Bink would get out of saying something like that (bitter? who knows) even if he truly felt that way. He’s not a rapper! Don’t get me wrong, I like some of Bink’s beats and his drum patterns. I just don’t hear the biting he is accusing Just of. I could most def see why Just would take that very seriously. I think this is worse than saying someone bit one beat because he is implying that Just got all of his work @ the Roc because of it. Also, I don’t think those last 2 HIT records (TI & Maino) sounded like Toomp or Drumma Boy.
“Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?”
09 Apr 2009 - 2:37
Ha ha…when it comes to sampled music, talking about biting styles is ridiculous!
09 Apr 2009 - 3:31
kid beats your cukoo
09 Apr 2009 - 5:02
yo just… dope pics in Swagger
09 Apr 2009 - 5:06
I think the video made me like the song. If I just heard the song I’d agree with STD.
Total Kaos responded.
*Goes to watch*
10 Apr 2009 - 11:32
LAST!!! Happy holiday weekend.
12 Apr 2009 - 0:22
Niggas is conversating about copyrights laws, and that Bink! Bullshit, But I just want to say…RIP TONY D damnit!!!
12 Apr 2009 - 2:11
Funny thing is I came here to look at the now infamous Just Blaze review of the MPC 5000. I was going to buy one tomorrow for Public Enemy studio. I saw the Tony D post. Funeral is Moday. Holla at me if you want the info to pay respects.
13 Apr 2009 - 3:40
onomatopoeia
13 Apr 2009 - 15:45
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
13 Apr 2009 - 17:22
well alright…
*thinks of an intellegant contribution to discussion*
BONGO BEATT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13 Apr 2009 - 18:48
WOW Tony D died. WHOA!!!!
I was a intern at this entertainment lawyers office that actually worked with the Tony D for that case between Opp and Tony D. It’s funny you brought this up because the first day he shows up to the office I knew of him but actually didn’t know that he was “WHITE” because if you look at the album cover the artwork didn’t depict him that way and i never bought the album to even see the back. Anyway Tony shows up and the lawyer was actually somewhere else and Tony D sits down and for some reason,probably gravity,he falls out the chair.Me being young he expect me to be laughing my ass OFF but i actually didn’t because he was actually about suing a friend i went to school with named Keir Giest . What happen was the story he told AND I was in that office was HE PLAYED the beat some how to Naught By Nature or they heard HIS beat and some how flipped it different. The problem was the publishing at the time neither one of them had cleared the sample and A case like this was actually at the very beginning of sampling laws so the only person who could actually sue was the publishing company that actually owned J5 sample and it was complicated. They actually wanted to hear what he was actually suing for the music theory, which wasn’t his. He actually was trying sue for the hearing of the sample or the authentication of how the song was sampled and that situation was unheard of at the time. So the lawsuit never became any further than that meeting with lawyers because they actually thought Naughty made alot of money off that song Naughty actually didn’t they just sold platinum and that’s was it. Royalties were a entire different situation
13 Apr 2009 - 18:58
R.I.P to Tony D
i never heard of dude before this, but as a fellow producer im gona educate myself on this mans music outta respect
14 Apr 2009 - 0:25
komi….stop it…a man has died here
14 Apr 2009 - 17:58
man.. R.I.P. Tony D
14 Apr 2009 - 18:28
R.I.P
15 Apr 2009 - 8:30
my gay roomate is movin around in the bed behind me….im very very frightened right now
16 Apr 2009 - 0:02
Just .. u see the trailer for the movie The Hangover, using Live Your Live over it…. also check out that trailer for mike tyson at the end Hilarious …
16 Apr 2009 - 7:41
She Wants To Be My Lady
But I’m A Free Bird
16 Apr 2009 - 7:49
She wants to be my lady
But I don’t see her
20 Apr 2009 - 18:55
*Anxiously awaits Saigon’s ringtone record*
21 Apr 2009 - 1:13
it was taken down from youtube and i didn’t get to see it, but there was a clip of a car chase from transformers 2… look out for that
21 Apr 2009 - 6:18
@all…its a wonderful night…cmon and break it on down
ps…this blog sucks
pps…..i did it FOR SOME PUSSAY
22 Apr 2009 - 7:10
Farva: Give me a double bacon cheeseburger.
Dimpus Burger Guy: [into mic] Double baco cheeseburger. It’s for a cop.
Farva: What the hell’s that all about? You gonna spit in it now?
Dimpus Burger Guy: No, I just told him that so he makes it good.
[into mic]
Dimpus Burger Guy: Don’t spit in that cop’s burger.
Farva: Yeah, thanks.
Second Dimpus Guy: Roger, holding the spit.
Farva: Gimme a pie… apple.
Dimpus Burger Guy: Want me to hold the spit? Hah, just kidding officer Farva.
[pause]
Dimpus Burger Guy: Want me to dimpa-size your meal for 25 cents?
Farva: Want me to punch-a-size your face, for free?
Dimpus Burger Guy: It’s only 25 cents, and look how much more you get.
Thorny: Look, kid, he doesn’t want it.
Farva: I can handle this, Thorn. I don’t want it!
Dimpus Burger Guy: Uhh, right. Beverage?
Farva: Gimme a litre o’ cola.
Dimpus Burger Guy: What?
Farva: [Annoyed] A litre o’ cola.
Dimpus Burger Guy: [into mic] Litrecola? Do we sell litrecola?
Thorny: Will you just order a large, Farva?
Farva: I don’t want a large farva. I want a goddamn litre o’ cola!
Dimpus Burger Guy: [to Farva] I don’t know what that is!
Farva: [slowly starts shouting] Litre is French for…
[grabs burger kid by shirt]
Farva: … give me my fuckin’ cola before I break VOUS FUCKIN’ LIP!
22 Apr 2009 - 7:23
Then Dag
You’re Pretty Rad
22 Apr 2009 - 7:31
Me and Teddy Ruxxpin stirring up a ruckus
Egging all the houses
Smashing all the pumpkins
22 Apr 2009 - 7:33
The Schnazzberries Taste Like Schnazzberries!
22 Apr 2009 - 7:39
Captain O’Hagan: I swear to God I’m going to pistol whip the next guy who says, ” Shenanigans.”
Mac: Hey Farva what’s the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Farva: You mean Shenanigans?
Mac: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Thorny: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
[as they hand the Captain their pistols]
22 Apr 2009 - 7:40
Reporter: “Could you clear about your practicing habits since we can’t see you practice?”
Iverson: “If Coach tells you that I missed practice, then that’s that. I may have missed one practice this year but if somebody says he missed one practice of all the practices this year, then that’s enough to get a whole lot started. I told Coach Brown that you don’t have to give the people of Philadelphia a reason to think about trading me or anything like that. If you trade somebody, you trade them to make the team better…simple as that. I’m cool with that. I’m all about that. The people in Philadelphia deserve to have a winner. It’s simple as that. It goes further than that.
Reporter: “So you and coach Brown got caught up on Saturday about practice?”
Iverson: “If I can’t practice, I can’t practice. It is as simple as that. It ain’t about that at all. It’s easy to sum it up if you’re just talking about practice. We’re sitting here, and I’m supposed to be the franchise player, and we’re talking about practice. I mean listen, we’re sitting here talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, but we’re talking about practice. Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game last it’s my last but we’re talking about practice man. How silly is that?
Now I know that I’m supposed to lead by example and all that but I’m not shoving that aside like it don’t mean anything. I know it’s important, I honestly do but we’re talking about practice. We’re talking about practice man. (laughter from the media crowd) We’re talking about practice. We’re talking about practice. We’re not talking about the game. We’re talking about practice. When you come to the arena, and you see me play, you’ve seen me play right, you’ve seen me give everything I’ve got, but we’re talking about practice right now. (more laughter)
Reporter: “But it’s an issue that your coach continues to raise?”
Iverson: “Hey I hear you, it’s funny to me to, hey it’s strange to me too but we’re talking about practice man, we’re not even talking about the game, when it actually matters, we’re talking about practice.”
22 Apr 2009 - 7:45
I’m too drunk to taste this chicken. -Colonel Sanders
22 Apr 2009 - 7:47
Your Beard Is Weird
22 Apr 2009 - 7:48
You’re gonna love my nuts
22 Apr 2009 - 7:50
I Was Scared
22 Apr 2009 - 7:54
Hello? You play to win the game. You don’t play it just to play it.
22 Apr 2009 - 8:00
“You were instructed not to talk about shit like that” -Billy Bob Thornton
22 Apr 2009 - 17:15
Kenny Powers: Undaunted, I knew the game was mine to win. Just like in life, all of my successes depend on me. I’m the man who has the ball, I’m the man who can throw it faster than fuck. So that is why I am better than everyone in the world. Kiss my ass and suck my dick. Everyone.
22 Apr 2009 - 17:19
Kenny Powers: Sure, I’ve been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I’m not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren’t as good. That used to be called patriotism.
22 Apr 2009 - 17:21
Kenny Powers’ motivational tape: A lot of people ask me, ‘Kenny Powers, you’re a giant superstar. You can get any woman. Have you ever paid for sex?’ And the answer is yes, I have. Several times, in fact. And it’s actually kinda cool. You can negotiate practically anything and sometimes, even just kind of do stuff in the moment that you never agreed to pay for and it goes by without much argument
28 Apr 2009 - 2:59
Relax, Max
Your nerves are just like jumpin’ jacks, Max
Your heart is thumpin’ with a crazy sound
Hear it pound
Bumpin’, bumpin’, bumpin’
Jumpin’ up and down
Stay cool, fool
Just take it easy
That’s the rule, fool
The evenin’ hasn’t even started yet
So, my pet
Control yourself, control yourself
Don’t get upset
28 Apr 2009 - 4:02
ps wats this i hear bout red 5 shirts…thanks for mentionin that this way